Hey, I walked past the Laughlin Park viewing station & didn't understand its meaning. Wish you had put a bit of explanation there. The whole concept would have been more resonant with me. I would've climbed those stairs. Back I go to get the full impact of your statement.
GOOD WOOD GONE TO WAST AGAIN :) "NOT" THANKS I NEEDED IT FOR MY TREE HOUSE AND TO DO REPAIR'S ON THE FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY, . KEEP LETTING US KNOW WHERE THEY ARE SO I CAN RIP THEM DOWN ALSO AND SALVAGE YOUR TRASH..J.L.B.338
DO YOU REALLY FEEL YOU ARE MAKING A CHANGE STUPID. AS LONG AS THERE IS UNLAWFUL PERSONS AND ACTIVITY SUCH AS BLOCKING THE SIDEWALKS SO THE HANDYCAPED CAN NOT GET BY AND FOOLISH VANDALS, CHILD MOLESTERS ,THEVES, ECT. WE WILL CLOSE THE DOORS ON YOUR FACES AND REBUKE THE DEVIL INSIDE OF YOU!!!!J.L.B. 338
The notion that there is something wrong with gating a neighborhood is ludicrous. The city saves much money because the streets within are privately maintained. Why don't you set up a viewing platform in front of everyone's private fenced-in yard? As long as it is more secure to live in a gated neighborhood they will continue to thrive and multiply. It would be more productive to address the urban problems which necessitate building gates in the first place.
Hey, you know what would be neat? A viewing RAMP instead of stairs so I could ride my self-balancing scooter up and have a look. I made it all by myself. Take a look: http://www.tlb.org/scooter.html
I love riding around and looking into peoples backyards and stuff. I can look for parts for my new inventions.
I think folks get too wrapped up in what they WANT to believe are facts. Gated communities will continue to foster isolation and prepetuate NIMBY attitudes. Fantatic project - keep it up!
"O YOU REALLY FEEL YOU ARE MAKING A CHANGE STUPID. AS LONG AS THERE IS UNLAWFUL PERSONS AND ACTIVITY SUCH AS BLOCKING THE SIDEWALKS SO THE HANDYCAPED CAN NOT GET BY AND FOOLISH VANDALS, CHILD MOLESTERS ,THEVES, ECT. WE WILL CLOSE THE DOORS ON YOUR FACES AND REBUKE THE DEVIL INSIDE OF YOU!!!!"
Why did you assist in destroying a rainforrest in order to make Peeping Tom's out of passersby? Who cares if there are gated communities if you keep using wood and causing the decline in breathable air? You guys have too much time on your hands. Stop smoking the weed and setting around the hippie campfire talking down the class structure and do something useful like invent a new energy producing technology so we don't have to burn fossil fuels.
Interesting! I'm not particularly familiar with the issue, but I support using non-destructive methods such as these to foster discussion. Keep up the great work!
Awesome. Absolutely awesome! Gated Communities represent the same elitist mindset that inadvertently launched the French Revolution and made our ancestors leave Britain!
This is What I think is one of the points trying to get across. When it takes something as drastic or not, however you like to look at is, as putting up the viewing towers, you don't get discussions. Look at how people on here are reacting now. I find it amazing how when there are issues with things, it takes something drastic to bring it up, then no one will actually talk and discuss it, they will insult you for it. Modern Humanity is worthless if this is how they feel they need to live. We are a democracy, we have the ability to talk and change things once points are heard, but instead, we argue, and insult. Oh Isn't the maturity level of our country great? No wonder we are constantly at war. I think that if putting up those towers are what needed to be done to actually get people to listen, then CONGRATS! they are listening! Now sit back and wait for insults, because people who will live in a gated community and take that offense to that small tower getting put up, will only flip you the bird and insult you for having such an idea. So, over all, I guess I am saying good luck with this.
oooo look at all the scared people... rather than solving the problem they hide from it behind walls. i wonder why they think walls will keep a determined thief out? if he gets in it will obviously be worth the effort because only the rich can afford to live in these "communities". they should put their money and effort into reducing urban crime instead of walling themselves in.
It is also interesting that they choose to live under a greater level of legal restriction than the public at large, too, with the restrictive covenants and so on in many of those communities. Even surrendering the right to paint your house a certain color or plant a garden that does not look the same as the neighbors....
Holy geez! If you are going to complain and try to sound intelligent about your complaint, use a dictionary or a spell checker. They work marvels. There is no such thing as "handycap" or a "theve". So, instead of complaining about an orange object that will be torn down soon enough, work on your English because that will last a lifetime.
I love to see people express through art. I think you all have an intresting view on gated communities that I have not really thought about before this. So your art has sparked a new way of thinking for me and probibly other people too. This is probibly what you were trying to do... so good job @ it. I love the whole idea of the viewing platform. How long will they be there for? I live in the inland empire and would love to come out and see it in person.
Well done. Any effort aimed at annoying elitists is worth my attention. For your next “urban planning” act, please trim their hedges in the shape of dollar signs.
gated communities are exactly like the Fuedal system where the lords and knights in one section (the manor or keep) and the serfs in the village. yay for economical Fuedalism - I guess it never really left.
You do realize that you are protesting those in their retirement age. Those who have spent years saving for this nice house in a community where they can be left to graze in the sunset of their life much like old elephants or race horses. OHH! AND KUDOS TO THE A$$HOLE THAT BLOCKED THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK FOR THOSE OF US IN WHEEL CHAIRS! You should re-think your strategy. They have a wall around their property on PRIVATE land yet your veiwing post made me roll into the street to get to the store. THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC! By the way the average age for La Brea residents is 63. You should be attacking the builders and owners of the complex because they are the ones benefiting from this. They are the ones in multimillion dollar houses. You are verbally attacking someone's grandmother or grandfather.
WOW! I am inspired! I am going to protest the Zoo because the animals should be free to roam. Right now the are suffering from the same oppressive hand that cages these communities. Then after that I think we should do the same thing at the state prisons. No one should have a wall separating them from other humans.
Interesting.... The fact that so many people are "outraged" by you simply putting these non-permanent structures up, and the fact that there is little definition on them really does make for some interesting stuff. Perhaps if you were to video some of the reactions from people, since they appear to be in a "public way" I would think it would be legal. Or perhaps the fact that your project illicits suggestions like that is all you are looking for? Interesting..... ;)
I'd love to live in a gated community, unfortunately there are none anywhere near where I bought my home in New Hampshire.
When Im at home I want peace, and yes I absolutely would choose to restrict entry for certain people. And no I am not an elitist...Im regular middle class. We do live in a society where people should be able to talk and work things out but please....VERY FEW actually do, and the ones that try get frustrated. I cant load all the idiots into a cage but a gated community is the next best thing.
Wow, not only did this raise awareness of how gated communities destroy any remaining sense of neighborhood and community, but you also made some people think about the plight of the handicapped, the elderly, the earth's dwindling rainforests, rampant air-pollution, the energy crisis and animal rights. And these people hadn't given a moment's thought about any of that in years. Congratulations are truly in order.
(On the other hand, one poster's touching concern for the "HANDYCAPED" is probably misplaced. Remember, while it's true that Superman always keeps his CAPE HANDY, while he's wearing it he can leap over those viewing platforms without breaking a sweat-and in a single bound no less.
These people are making a point. And a good one. All of you blathering about other stuff and throwing up your petty gripes need to spend less time feeling self-righteous online.
this is a cool project. i totally see the point that you guys are making. funny how people attack a peaceful project with such violent words though.... makes me wish we could put them in a gated community, and just make them stay there, those dumb bunches of elitist
As a Landscape Architect who practiced in California for years before relocating to the east coast, I have to say that I think the actions here are misguided. I heard of this in an article that cited "Heavy Trash, a coalition of anonymous architects, designers and urban planners" and the message they were trying to get across. I wonder why these non-descript platforms that offered no educational opportunity for the public are the medium they chose to use. I couldn't imagine a design professional in Southern California thinking that this was the best way to communicate their concern about gated communities. Development in LA, San Diego and Orange Counties is driven by homebuilders. If affecting change was really the goal of this project, I imagine they would have made some effort towards challenging a homebuilder to build an exclusive community without gates. Hell, they're all designers, right. Design a Master Plan for a make-believe community and show people how things can work better than the way they're criticizing. That would be the professional, intellectual, effective way of making changes. Shock value statements are for people who have no other reasonable method of communicating. This goes without even mentioning how I disagree with their view on private communities and the fostering of a fearful society. That notion sounds like the mumblings of a group of have-nots looking for interesting to spin the fact that they've been left out - if not as homeowner, then as professionals who aren't getting good work because they're living in a place that doesn't jibe with their ideology. Huh, then what the hell are they doing in LA anyway? Now it's all making sense......ridiculous.
To those of you who do not want to protect yourselves by living in a gated community...Go right on, bleat, complain and let "them" rob you blind and in so doing keep them engaged and away from me!
OH GEES, HOW FRIGHTFULLY SUBVERSIVE! The problem isn't the gates, it's the sprawl, the cars, the lack of walkable civilised public space, density, public transit, etc. etc. Thousands of acres of single family suburbs, gated or not, is why LA is such a traffic-choked toilet. Who cares about the cheezy McMansion behind the gate? There's one just like it up the street.
re: the complaints about obstructed pedestrian rights-of-way... i'm impressed there are actually some sidewalks to block! the concern would be better directed to those who more permanently disturb people's ability to move around the city without a car.
jim, the landscape architect, has a deeply flawed argument: that heavytrash decided not to attach more information to their viewing stations does not mean that they did not consider a more direct approach. instead, it shows that they may be a bit more savvy about attracting attention than jim can appreciate. and the idea that the members of heavytrash simply move away from l.a. instead of trying to effect change (and remain politically committed) in their own community is absurb beyond belief!
I certainly don't believe that "tearing down the walls" immediately is going to solve any problems, but I commend Heavy Trash for raising awareness of a problem. The platforms do as they are supposed to...they get people talking.
I think the awareness is needed, but do you guys really think that this means anything a week from now. You must do bigger and better, you must entice the world. One really can't blame those inside the walls for uterlly giving up on trying to fix the worlds problems and hiding, CAN YOU?
...big leaps occur only after small steps. Pruitt-Igo went the way of the highway, the Berlin Wall is no longer, even Cabrini Green is finding itself reinvented. Keep the idiots educated...awareness of the issue is only the beginning...
If the elite trash would like to live in their walled fortresses, I think it's perfectly acceptable. Their loss of being cut off from an amazing and diverse world is my gain in never having to see their faces in public. Kudos to them for getting the hell out of my way and out of sight.
Wow... I never really thought about it before, but yes, gated communities are quite reminiscent of the old Twightlight Zone shows, where the occupants fall victim to their own fears and insecurities. Quite eerie indeed!
How are we ever going to be united in this world if we keep putting walls up between us? It's so strange that the world is actually getting smaller, and we're learning and meeting so many new and interesting cultures, ideas and points of view, and there are some people who seem to be trying to keep that out. Of course it's their right to do so, it's a free country after all... but at what cost? I guess it's mainly their loss.
I for one would not want to live in a gated community, and learning about this project has really helped me to thoroughly think about and solidify this decision. Hmmm... could that have been the point all along? To save those of us who haven't given in to fear and run away yet? Good job guys! ^_^
the people who are saying that "it's fine for people to gate themselves in if they want to" are missing the point that by taking a big old swathe of land in the middle of a community and gating it off, you are simply making GETTING AROUND that much more difficult - especially for those WITHOUT CARS - children, the elderly, and the poor. who we generally tend to neglect as a rule in this "society" of ours, and gated communities simply serve to exacerbate that. if you want to put a 20-foot-gate around your house - fine, do it. but streets have been the basis of public space ever since the very first cities - and should remain so, if we consider ourselves to be at all civilized.
and, to all those people wailing about the structures blocking the sidewalk... yes, problematic, but think of the bigger picture - which is a bigger problem for sidewalk access - a temporary viewing platform, or a acres-wide gated community?
Perhaps some mock border guard stations situated at the gates a la East Berlin would have made more of a point. Or perhaps your own gates, face to face with theirs, walling off the rest of the city from the isolationist nuts - "Outside the Asylum", Douglas Adams style? I grok the sentiment, but the statement was maybe a little too obscure in its delivery. Besides, I'd feel a little safer knowing nuts like J.L.B.338 were safely isolated from society...
This is a strange mix between absurdity and poignancy that I really like. For the people who think it is too obscure, you got it didn't you? In this TV world we think everything has to pound us over the head with loud monosyllabic blandness. This is funny really. And they might make good shelters for the homeless when you are done with them.
This is great... come out here to Atlanta and put these up in the icky Cali-like enclaves that are popping up all over! And I agree with the previous poster... L.A. is a giant sh*thole!
First they isolated the First Peoples on reservations, because they wanted them gone and now they've put themselves into reservations because they know we want them gone LOL
Gated communities are a desire to create order where social norms and law enforcement have failed. If the police won't enforce anti-litter laws the homeowner's association will. If the city's taxing of property owners won't provide adequate common area maintenance the community association (and the additional fees) will. If there's no way to prevent the neighbors from making their yard and home an eyesore we'll live in a community that requires minimum standards. It's called freedom of choice. The lurking social agenda here is that after trashing their own environments the great unwashed aren't satisfied until every place in the city is their personal dumping ground - especially if someone else is paying to clean it up. We've waited long enough for "shared responsibility" - I'll take my gate card and go home to a community where we ALL agree that it's our shared responsibility to maintain beauty, order and cleanliness. If that's not what you want there's plenty more of the world to wallow in outside the gate.
Fucking Morons. Im sure about umpteen gated communities are going to tear down their walls and gates now that you built some orange volleyball referee booths.
What's the difference between a gated community and a non-gated community? Very little. People have fences and walls around their houses and yards regardless of what kind of community they live in. Sure there is some elitism in a gated community. But people's biggest concern, no matter if they live in a ritzy gated community or the low-rent district, is PRIVACY.
I love private, gated communities. They segregate the elitists from the rest of society. We shouldn't be protesting gated communities, we should be encouraging developers to build more so that we can further isolate all the elitist a-holes from the real people. Let them have their country clubs and private roads. We don't want them associating with *real* people.
i live 5 miles from work. there are 2 roads to work. one of them (a county road) cuts through Pecan Plantation, a gated community, and is 5.2 miles long from my home to work. I am not allowed in there. the other road is approximately 19 miles long, curving around an artificial lake built in the town. with stop lights and traffic i have a 45 minute commute one way. am i being unreasonable to ask 'what is the sense in this?'
I understand your concept, in principle. Next time you do a project like this I recommend you install some sort of information along with your construct, as the devices themselves are kind of obscure. They just look like construction equipment that the city hasn't gotten around to retrieving yet.
Living in a gated community does not necessarily mean these people have cut themselves off entirely from the community and the diversity of the city. They can still shop in the city if they want, they eat where they want, their cars need repairs, they go to the beach, the bars, the museums, movies, etc. But when they get home, they probably just want some peace. They want security. They want their home to be the same as they left it. I don't see a problem with that. I live in a very urban area, our stuff is constantly being broken and stolen and defaced by people who don't live in the neighborhood. Our whole side of the city is a complex of tightly knit nieghborhoods. That doesn't offer me any security. They installed blind-one-ways, potted plant barriers, concrete medians. It hasn't helped. I live with three cops in my neighborhood. It doesn't help. People drive past our normal lower middle class cars and shoot all the windows out, they pull our stair rails out of the ground to resell, they tag the 100 year old bricks, a couple was killed "for fun" while walking hand-in-hand in our park... it's crazy stupid criminality that mankind has always been plagued with. So these people got sick of it, can afford to provide greater security for their homes/spouses/kids, and did so. They still can enjoy all the aspects of the city, of their new neighborhood and their neighbors, of diversity of culture, but not deal with as much crime. I'm not afraid of being robbed... I *am* being robbed. There's a difference. If I could afford to move somewhere with private security, I would. And I say this as a young blue-collar white male raised in a mixed ethnicity home, who has moved from absolute poverty to lower middle class... and security makes all the difference in the world.
It's great what you're doing but you need to dumb it down a little for the general public. Most people will not use the veiwing platform due to the fact that it isn't theirs and thusly keeping off. Maybe making it's purpose more obvious would help explain what you're trying to say. :)
I think that installing a periscope might be worthwhile next time. They are easy to make and relatively inexpensive. Also they would provide for easier viewing and also Kids abosolutely love them. I also liked the idea of a ramp instead of stairs, but no for the same reason as the other poster, these really should be handicap accesible. How about a ramp to get up... and a slide to get down? Have you seen the jungle gyms with the fake foot and hand grabs like thosed used in climbing? Maybe that would be fun on one side.
I belive others have touched on this but let me throw my 2 cents (well actually point .0098 cents in todays economy) in. Why don't we treat them like an an exhibit and have group viewings. Maybe once they're conditioned we could even feed the scared homo sapiens. It'll just be like a flashback of those family outings to the zoo when you were young.
PecanPlantation makes the most palpable point yet for the insanity of gated communities. I looked up Pecan Plantation on Rand McNally and it's amazing -- they've taken a really key piece of acreage right in a riverbend, at natural crossroads dividing one part of the county from another, and gated it off. You ought to sue the county for refusing to let you use the roads you pay to maintain.
It's great to see people taking advantage of free speech, which is right that many of us today take for granted. Keep it up, create awareness, be heard.
I came to US for MY FREEDOM. You ant to protest -- FREEDOM. I want to live there --- FREEDOM. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! US is the BEST Country in the World!
I am a freshman studying at the school of Art & Design at Alfred University and stumbled across this page through yahoo news. I think it's a great idea to use the viewing towers because it is a non-violent and moderately calm way of stirring discussion about these fortresses...I mean gated communities. I remember a few years ago my family (yes, we are quite wealthy) almost moved to a gated community (Tuxedo Park, NJ) and I am so thankfl we didn't. It really is sad to live in a gated community. If you actually talked to people that have lived in a gated community (especially as secluded a one like Tuxedo Park) for some years you'll realize how uneducated and out-of-touch they are with the rest of the world and other cultures. Many people that have responded negatively don't seem to back up why gated communities are good with any evidence. This is most likely because they are scared or what you are trying to open up to the public. These places are being built at an alarming rate and pretty soon you'll see gated community next to gated community next to gated community...wall next to wall next to wall. There's a reason people build walls, to keep what they don't want from getting in. It seems to me like these people don't want anyone that is not like them into there lives. And for that, I feel sorry for them.
I have lived in Los Angeles all my life. I have seen many changes and not always for the better. But it's still the best place to live.. so for all who live here and hate it GO AWAY!!!, and for all who hate it and don't live here STAY AWAY!!!
If they don't like it then build their own communities by pooling their meager salaries as architects-by-day. And I ought to know and why should that be a surprise? Thought provoking though...
One thing I find funny is how you folks at Heavy Trash are an "Anonymous" group. Ironic thing is that the people living in gated communities are trying to stay "Anonymous" as well...share your identy and maybe they will as well???
This is rather cute. I live in a very small town in Michigan so I never see this kinda stuff. I agree with the person that said.."sit back and wait for the insults". This is what you guys do this for, to make a point, not really caring how "In your face" it is. It's awesome and I am proud of you all, make the statement, get it across...sit back and smile as the people piss and moan about it. It just means it touched them in that special place ;)
The reason I dont like LA is because it is full of homeless people. I spent good money for my house and don't want bums urinating in my backyard and I can't blame these multi millionaires for feeling the same way.
Who are you fools? Putting up orange pieces of wood made into a staircase to do what? Peer into peoples pools? Or is it simply a suggestion that u think the rich cant have a fuckin gate around their house to keep trash like you out??????????????????????????????? See my aunt and uncle live in a gated community probably not far from you...its called calabasas...and if i see one of you bastards puttin up one of these eye soars as we drive up in the stylin porsche cayenne im gonne beat the livin shyt outta all u fukkd up "artists"!!! Poor you...dont have any cash...poor you dont have credit cards to use...poor you...your daddy beat you with a stick..poor you...you didnt get a degree from stanford like my uncle who is now rich...poor you..you smoked too much weed in high school and didnt educate your mind and thought u could make a living dumpsterdiving. What the hell are you people thinking, really? I think this a stupid little blog of people that are dissapointed that they didnt "make it" like all the rest of us hard working people in the usa. I think you are all silly little bitches to be quite honest. Just a few more fruits to add to the good ole CA nutcake. I think you all oughta have your scrawny little asses kicked...then beat down for causing me to have to write to you and express my thoughts that practically 99.9 percent of the rest of the population also feels. Grow up...get a REAL JOB and quit trying to put up wood structures that mean nothing other than your financial plight downward....ok?
Fascinating dialogue... thank God we live in America and can discuss these issues in a civil manner. Within this blog both sides have stated many of their concerns upfront and center.
Understanding that America long ago choose a low density multi-ethnic suburbian "model" (in part due to the automobile) and not a high density "model" like Hong Kong we are now stuck with issues such as sprawl, closed communities next to high-crime areas, walls, related fear/anger/mistrust, isolation, etc.
Where do we go from here? The Hong Kong model is obviously more efficient but do we want to live like that?
this is pretty lame. they don't even look like guard towers or anything menacing. it's like, the whole thing falls apart without a press release to explain it. i hate scared yuppies as much as anyone. hell, when i was a kid, i'd hang around with my mom while she cleaned houses in those middle class ghettos, but this is the kind of thing i'd expect from the artsy gated community dwellers. bottom line, all i see is college educated jerks bothering each other.
Look at all the jealousy! I don't live in a gated community. I actually live in a 600 square foot apartment. However, one day I will be able to afford the finer things in life. Why? Not because I sat around waiting for handouts, but because I earned a degree and found a job. I'm off to work so I can supplement your income...you should be too!
I think the idea of what you are doing is alright, but if you were rich and famous I can bet you'd have some sort of security up or near your property to keep un-wanted fans or starkers away. But we live in a free world, so rock on! I do have a question??? How is this funded? To pay for the supplies? Private donations? I'd like to help and I have ideas for a bigger project
If you were rich and famous would you have your property gated? I'd like to help donate some paint and supplies. How can i do this? A general location or store would be fine. You guys rock
Sounds like you guys got what you wanted. A discussion about gated communities and the pros and cons. Sometimes it takes building absurd orange towers to actually get some people out and participate in their community and the direction it is going.
I bet this cost oh maybe 0.0001% of Christo's "The Gates" and the controversy here is actually productive.
As for the people who posted here expressing the desire to commit acts of violence, why don't they relieve some of the long-serving reservists and troops in Iraq who are really paying the price for our lifestyle.
The gated community is merely a physical manifestation of growing American ignorance and fear. Exurbia is "open" to all, but just as closed.
Hey guys. Thank you. I live in Minnesota, I saw what you did on yahoo news. You guys rock. In Minnesota, a gated community is something we don't really know about and hopefully we won't know about. Keep up the good work! Don't get mad at the ignorant people.
Thank you for the viewing platforms. I have seen many beautiful, naked women with them. Feel free to use the tissues I've left. Say hello to their sugar daddies for me.
If you take a frog and throw it into boiling water it jumps out. Place that same frog in a pot of water and turn up the temperature and it dies a slow death. Please do not try this at home. Next time, create a frenzy by charging admission which will cause the curious to create line ups and since they paid for it, they may think about it.
I’m not sure why you care…. I doubt very seriously that you would enjoy the company of the people living in these communities so once again,, why do you care? I’m sure there are many homeless people that would truly appreciate a strong well built wooden structure,, you do have homeless people in CA don’t you? Chop chop,, lets do something constructive.
hey it's too soon for people to understand your point - they still afraid to death of percieved dangers (sex offenders, youth crime - all just a minor fractions of the huge numbers of petty crimes.) The posts here proves my point... You should contact culture jammers and ad-busters they have some very innovative ideas ("take back the street", etc.)
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nice photos
Hey, I walked past the Laughlin Park viewing station & didn't understand its meaning. Wish you had put a bit of explanation there. The whole concept would have been more resonant with me. I would've climbed those stairs. Back I go to get the full impact of your statement.
PARK LA BREA IS GONE! THEY DESTROYED IT!!!!!!
GOOD WOOD GONE TO WAST AGAIN :) "NOT" THANKS I NEEDED IT FOR MY TREE HOUSE AND TO DO REPAIR'S ON THE FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY, . KEEP LETTING US KNOW WHERE THEY ARE SO I CAN RIP THEM DOWN ALSO AND SALVAGE YOUR TRASH..J.L.B.338
DO YOU REALLY FEEL YOU
ARE MAKING A CHANGE STUPID. AS LONG AS THERE IS UNLAWFUL
PERSONS AND ACTIVITY SUCH
AS BLOCKING THE SIDEWALKS SO
THE HANDYCAPED CAN NOT GET BY
AND FOOLISH VANDALS, CHILD MOLESTERS ,THEVES, ECT. WE WILL
CLOSE THE DOORS ON YOUR FACES
AND REBUKE THE DEVIL INSIDE OF YOU!!!!J.L.B. 338
The notion that there is something wrong with gating a neighborhood is ludicrous. The city saves much money because the streets within are privately maintained. Why don't you set up a viewing platform in front of everyone's private fenced-in yard? As long as it is more secure to live in a gated neighborhood they will continue to thrive and multiply. It would be more productive to address the urban problems which necessitate building gates in the first place.
Hey, you know what would be neat? A viewing RAMP instead of stairs so I could ride my self-balancing scooter up and have a look. I made it all by myself. Take a look: http://www.tlb.org/scooter.html
I love riding around and looking into peoples backyards and stuff. I can look for parts for my new inventions.
It is a rather interesting project. Is it possible to have info posted about the other projects you have done as well as the community response?
i love it. poetic, confronting, and a little abstract.
keep up the challenging work.
Gated communities are fantastic. Do you really want the residents enjoying the city streets with the rest of us!?!
I think folks get too wrapped up in what they WANT to believe are facts. Gated communities will continue to foster isolation and prepetuate NIMBY attitudes. Fantatic project - keep it up!
"O YOU REALLY FEEL YOU
ARE MAKING A CHANGE STUPID. AS LONG AS THERE IS UNLAWFUL
PERSONS AND ACTIVITY SUCH
AS BLOCKING THE SIDEWALKS SO
THE HANDYCAPED CAN NOT GET BY
AND FOOLISH VANDALS, CHILD MOLESTERS ,THEVES, ECT. WE WILL
CLOSE THE DOORS ON YOUR FACES
AND REBUKE THE DEVIL INSIDE OF YOU!!!!"
this is quite an intellectual discourse
Why did you assist in destroying a rainforrest in order to make Peeping Tom's out of passersby? Who cares if there are gated communities if you keep using wood and causing the decline in breathable air? You guys have too much time on your hands. Stop smoking the weed and setting around the hippie campfire talking down the class structure and do something useful like invent a new energy producing technology so we don't have to burn fossil fuels.
Where can I get one of those platforms? I want to use it for hunting deer.
Huh. So gated communities are kind of like zoos now. You can climb the stairs and view the strange, frightened, paranoiod creatures within. Clever.
Fine, as long as they don't start throwing s#@! at you like monkeys at the zoo...
I say, keep the undesireables in and let real life continue without them. Kudos.
Interesting! I'm not particularly familiar with the issue, but I support using non-destructive methods such as these to foster discussion. Keep up the great work!
Awesome. Absolutely awesome! Gated Communities represent the same elitist mindset that inadvertently launched the French Revolution and made our ancestors leave Britain!
Ah California. I wish I had nothing to do all day but sit in the sun, eat tofu, and "do the right thing." Thanks for not letting me down CA!
This is What I think is one of the points trying to get across. When it takes something as drastic or not, however you like to look at is, as putting up the viewing towers, you don't get discussions. Look at how people on here are reacting now. I find it amazing how when there are issues with things, it takes something drastic to bring it up, then no one will actually talk and discuss it, they will insult you for it. Modern Humanity is worthless if this is how they feel they need to live. We are a democracy, we have the ability to talk and change things once points are heard, but instead, we argue, and insult. Oh Isn't the maturity level of our country great? No wonder we are constantly at war. I think that if putting up those towers are what needed to be done to actually get people to listen, then CONGRATS! they are listening! Now sit back and wait for insults, because people who will live in a gated community and take that offense to that small tower getting put up, will only flip you the bird and insult you for having such an idea. So, over all, I guess I am saying good luck with this.
oooo look at all the scared people... rather than solving the problem they hide from it behind walls. i wonder why they think walls will keep a determined thief out? if he gets in it will obviously be worth the effort because only the rich can afford to live in these "communities". they should put their money and effort into reducing urban crime instead of walling themselves in.
It is also interesting that they choose to live under a greater level of legal restriction than the public at large, too, with the restrictive covenants and so on in many of those communities. Even surrendering the right to paint your house a certain color or plant a garden that does not look the same as the neighbors....
Holy geez! If you are going to complain and try to sound intelligent about your complaint, use a dictionary or a spell checker. They work marvels. There is no such thing as "handycap" or a "theve". So, instead of complaining about an orange object that will be torn down soon enough, work on your English because that will last a lifetime.
I love to see people express through art. I think you all have an intresting view on gated communities that I have not really thought about before this. So your art has sparked a new way of thinking for me and probibly other people too. This is probibly what you were trying to do... so good job @ it. I love the whole idea of the viewing platform. How long will they be there for? I live in the inland empire and would love to come out and see it in person.
Thanks HeavyTrash~
You all just made my day.
Well done. Any effort aimed at annoying elitists is worth my attention. For your next “urban planning” act, please trim their hedges in the shape of dollar signs.
nice!
(by the way, you should track, report and post the blasters ip's ... )
gated communities are exactly like the Fuedal system where the lords and knights in one section (the manor or keep) and the serfs in the village. yay for economical Fuedalism - I guess it never really left.
You do realize that you are protesting those in their retirement age. Those who have spent years saving for this nice house in a community where they can be left to graze in the sunset of their life much like old elephants or race horses. OHH! AND KUDOS TO THE A$$HOLE THAT BLOCKED THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK FOR THOSE OF US IN WHEEL CHAIRS! You should re-think your strategy. They have a wall around their property on PRIVATE land yet your veiwing post made me roll into the street to get to the store. THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC! By the way the average age for La Brea residents is 63. You should be attacking the builders and owners of the complex because they are the ones benefiting from this. They are the ones in multimillion dollar houses. You are verbally attacking someone's grandmother or grandfather.
WOW! I am inspired! I am going to protest the Zoo because the animals should be free to roam. Right now the are suffering from the same oppressive hand that cages these communities. Then after that I think we should do the same thing at the state prisons. No one should have a wall separating them from other humans.
Interesting.... The fact that so many people are "outraged" by you simply putting these non-permanent structures up, and the fact that there is little definition on them really does make for some interesting stuff. Perhaps if you were to video some of the reactions from people, since they appear to be in a "public way" I would think it would be legal. Or perhaps the fact that your project illicits suggestions like that is all you are looking for? Interesting..... ;)
I'd love to live in a gated community, unfortunately there are none anywhere near where I bought my home in New Hampshire.
When Im at home I want peace, and yes I absolutely would choose to restrict entry for certain people. And no I am not an elitist...Im regular middle class. We do live in a society where people should be able to talk and work things out but please....VERY FEW actually do, and the ones that try get frustrated. I cant load all the idiots into a cage but a gated community is the next best thing.
waaaaaah i don't understand that one of art's many purposes is to provoke questions about the social environments we create for ourselves.
Wow, not only did this raise awareness of how gated communities destroy any remaining sense of neighborhood and community, but you also made some people think about the plight of the handicapped, the elderly, the earth's dwindling rainforests, rampant air-pollution, the energy crisis and animal rights. And these people hadn't given a moment's thought about any of that in years. Congratulations are truly in order.
(On the other hand, one poster's touching concern for the "HANDYCAPED" is probably misplaced. Remember, while it's true that Superman always keeps his CAPE HANDY, while he's wearing it he can leap over those viewing platforms without breaking a sweat-and in a single bound no less.
-Barry Freed
You people are all nuts.
Seems a little over the top. But whatever, to each his own, right?
These people are making a point. And a good one. All of you blathering about other stuff and throwing up your petty gripes need to spend less time feeling self-righteous online.
Great concept. Combines viewing platform & soapbox/pulpit.
Maybe one of these each side of the fence could make a stile: free passage for (fit) pedestrians.
this is a cool project. i totally see the point that you guys are making. funny how people attack a peaceful project with such violent words though.... makes me wish we could put them in a gated community, and just make them stay there, those dumb bunches of elitist
As a Landscape Architect who practiced in California for years before relocating to the east coast, I have to say that I think the actions here are misguided. I heard of this in an article that cited "Heavy Trash, a coalition of anonymous architects, designers and urban planners" and the message they were trying to get across. I wonder why these non-descript platforms that offered no educational opportunity for the public are the medium they chose to use. I couldn't imagine a design professional in Southern California thinking that this was the best way to communicate their concern about gated communities. Development in LA, San Diego and Orange Counties is driven by homebuilders. If affecting change was really the goal of this project, I imagine they would have made some effort towards challenging a homebuilder to build an exclusive community without gates. Hell, they're all designers, right. Design a Master Plan for a make-believe community and show people how things can work better than the way they're criticizing. That would be the professional, intellectual, effective way of making changes. Shock value statements are for people who have no other reasonable method of communicating.
This goes without even mentioning how I disagree with their view on private communities and the fostering of a fearful society. That notion sounds like the mumblings of a group of have-nots looking for interesting to spin the fact that they've been left out - if not as homeowner, then as professionals who aren't getting good work because they're living in a place that doesn't jibe with their ideology. Huh, then what the hell are they doing in LA anyway? Now it's all making sense......ridiculous.
You want to see art, come to my site. www.tatescolony.com NOW THAT'S A BRILLIANT COMMUNITY!
To those of you who do not want to protect yourselves by living in a gated community...Go right on, bleat, complain and let "them" rob you blind and in so doing keep them engaged and away from me!
OH GEES, HOW FRIGHTFULLY SUBVERSIVE! The problem isn't the gates, it's the sprawl, the cars, the lack of walkable civilised public space, density, public transit, etc. etc. Thousands of acres of single family suburbs, gated or not, is why LA is such a traffic-choked toilet.
Who cares about the cheezy McMansion behind the gate? There's one just like it up the street.
re: the complaints about obstructed pedestrian rights-of-way... i'm impressed there are actually some sidewalks to block! the concern would be better directed to those who more permanently disturb people's ability to move around the city without a car.
keep up the good work, heavytrash!
jim, the landscape architect, has a deeply flawed argument: that heavytrash decided not to attach more information to their viewing stations does not mean that they did not consider a more direct approach. instead, it shows that they may be a bit more savvy about attracting attention than jim can appreciate.
and the idea that the members of heavytrash simply move away from l.a. instead of trying to effect change (and remain politically committed) in their own community is absurb beyond belief!
Hmm, Gates versus Jobs?
Lowly plywood lets apt jabs!
Tongue lolls in cheery cheek.
I certainly don't believe that "tearing down the walls" immediately is going to solve any problems, but I commend Heavy Trash for raising awareness of a problem. The platforms do as they are supposed to...they get people talking.
I think the awareness is needed, but do you guys really think that this means anything a week from now. You must do bigger and better, you must entice the world. One really can't blame those inside the walls for uterlly giving up on trying to fix the worlds problems and hiding, CAN YOU?
...big leaps occur only after small steps. Pruitt-Igo went the way of the highway, the Berlin Wall is no longer, even Cabrini Green is finding itself reinvented. Keep the idiots educated...awareness of the issue is only the beginning...
You should have made it so I can drive my car up it with the radio on, A/C on, and eating a Big Mac.
Awesome idea..
I wonder if these people know that we can look right into their homes with Google, picking trash, and hacked WiFi connections?
But wait, they only drive H2s right?
You guys/gals are great. Keep on rockin' in the free world.
Haha, awesome. If I lived in LA (or California for that matter) I'd definitely want to be apart of this.
It takes the work of creative minds to shake people up and point out the things in society that are screwed up.
Southern California has the ugliest "architecture" in the world and it's a big laugh to see gates around the horrid pink stucco McMansions.
The Home Depot orange was a nice touch.
If the elite trash would like to live in their walled fortresses, I think it's perfectly acceptable. Their loss of being cut off from an amazing and diverse world is my gain in never having to see their faces in public. Kudos to them for getting the hell out of my way and out of sight.
Wow... I never really thought about it before, but yes, gated communities are quite reminiscent of the old Twightlight Zone shows, where the occupants fall victim to their own fears and insecurities. Quite eerie indeed!
How are we ever going to be united in this world if we keep putting walls up between us? It's so strange that the world is actually getting smaller, and we're learning and meeting so many new and interesting cultures, ideas and points of view, and there are some people who seem to be trying to keep that out. Of course it's their right to do so, it's a free country after all... but at what cost? I guess it's mainly their loss.
I for one would not want to live in a gated community, and learning about this project has really helped me to thoroughly think about and solidify this decision. Hmmm... could that have been the point all along? To save those of us who haven't given in to fear and run away yet? Good job guys! ^_^
the people who are saying that "it's fine for people to gate themselves in if they want to" are missing the point that by taking a big old swathe of land in the middle of a community and gating it off, you are simply making GETTING AROUND that much more difficult - especially for those WITHOUT CARS - children, the elderly, and the poor. who we generally tend to neglect as a rule in this "society" of ours, and gated communities simply serve to exacerbate that. if you want to put a 20-foot-gate around your house - fine, do it. but streets have been the basis of public space ever since the very first cities - and should remain so, if we consider ourselves to be at all civilized.
and, to all those people wailing about the structures blocking the sidewalk... yes, problematic, but think of the bigger picture - which is a bigger problem for sidewalk access - a temporary viewing platform, or a acres-wide gated community?
This is friggin retarded.
Perhaps some mock border guard stations situated at the gates a la East Berlin would have made more of a point. Or perhaps your own gates, face to face with theirs, walling off the rest of the city from the isolationist nuts - "Outside the Asylum", Douglas Adams style? I grok the sentiment, but the statement was maybe a little too obscure in its delivery. Besides, I'd feel a little safer knowing nuts like J.L.B.338 were safely isolated from society...
This is a strange mix between absurdity and poignancy that I really like. For the people who think it is too obscure, you got it didn't you? In this TV world we think everything has to pound us over the head with loud monosyllabic blandness. This is funny really. And they might make good shelters for the homeless when you are done with them.
p.s. LA is pretty much a giant shithole.
This is great... come out here to Atlanta and put these up in the icky Cali-like enclaves that are popping up all over! And I agree with the previous poster... L.A. is a giant sh*thole!
First they isolated the First Peoples on reservations, because they wanted them gone and now they've put themselves into reservations because they know we want them gone LOL
Gated communities are a desire to create order where social norms and law enforcement have failed. If the police won't enforce anti-litter laws the homeowner's association will. If the city's taxing of property owners won't provide adequate common area maintenance the community association (and the additional fees) will. If there's no way to prevent the neighbors from making their yard and home an eyesore we'll live in a community that requires minimum standards. It's called freedom of choice. The lurking social agenda here is that after trashing their own environments the great unwashed aren't satisfied until every place in the city is their personal dumping ground - especially if someone else is paying to clean it up. We've waited long enough for "shared responsibility" - I'll take my gate card and go home to a community where we ALL agree that it's our shared responsibility to maintain beauty, order and cleanliness. If that's not what you want there's plenty more of the world to wallow in outside the gate.
Fucking Morons. Im sure about umpteen gated communities are going to tear down their walls and gates now that you built some orange volleyball referee booths.
Fuck the greedy rich bastards.
Tear down the walls!
Kudos to you HeavyTrash !!!
p.s., put one outside the White House so we can get a peek at sneaky George and what he and his greedy corrupt friend Tom DeLay are up to....
:)
What's the difference between a gated community and a non-gated community? Very little. People have fences and walls around their houses and yards regardless of what kind of community they live in. Sure there is some elitism in a gated community. But people's biggest concern, no matter if they live in a ritzy gated community or the low-rent district, is PRIVACY.
I love private, gated communities. They segregate the elitists from the rest of society. We shouldn't be protesting gated communities, we should be encouraging developers to build more so that we can further isolate all the elitist a-holes from the real people. Let them have their country clubs and private roads. We don't want them associating with *real* people.
i live 5 miles from work.
there are 2 roads to work. one of them (a county road) cuts through Pecan Plantation, a gated community, and is 5.2 miles long from my home to work. I am not allowed in there.
the other road is approximately 19 miles long, curving around an artificial lake built in the town. with stop lights and traffic i have a 45 minute commute one way.
am i being unreasonable to ask 'what is the sense in this?'
I understand your concept, in principle. Next time you do a project like this I recommend you install some sort of information along with your construct, as the devices themselves are kind of obscure. They just look like construction equipment that the city hasn't gotten around to retrieving yet.
Living in a gated community does not necessarily mean these people have cut themselves off entirely from the community and the diversity of the city. They can still shop in the city if they want, they eat where they want, their cars need repairs, they go to the beach, the bars, the museums, movies, etc. But when they get home, they probably just want some peace. They want security. They want their home to be the same as they left it. I don't see a problem with that. I live in a very urban area, our stuff is constantly being broken and stolen and defaced by people who don't live in the neighborhood. Our whole side of the city is a complex of tightly knit nieghborhoods. That doesn't offer me any security. They installed blind-one-ways, potted plant barriers, concrete medians. It hasn't helped. I live with three cops in my neighborhood. It doesn't help. People drive past our normal lower middle class cars and shoot all the windows out, they pull our stair rails out of the ground to resell, they tag the 100 year old bricks, a couple was killed "for fun" while walking hand-in-hand in our park... it's crazy stupid criminality that mankind has always been plagued with. So these people got sick of it, can afford to provide greater security for their homes/spouses/kids, and did so. They still can enjoy all the aspects of the city, of their new neighborhood and their neighbors, of diversity of culture, but not deal with as much crime. I'm not afraid of being robbed... I *am* being robbed. There's a difference. If I could afford to move somewhere with private security, I would. And I say this as a young blue-collar white male raised in a mixed ethnicity home, who has moved from absolute poverty to lower middle class... and security makes all the difference in the world.
It's great what you're doing but you need to dumb it down a little for the general public. Most people will not use the veiwing platform due to the fact that it isn't theirs and thusly keeping off.
Maybe making it's purpose more obvious would help explain what you're trying to say. :)
you could consider putting up signs such as 'do not feed the animals' in front of their gates.
or a sign that reaches above the wall pointing in that simply says 'don't hate us'
I think that installing a periscope might be worthwhile next time. They are easy to make and relatively inexpensive. Also they would provide for easier viewing and also Kids abosolutely love them. I also liked the idea of a ramp instead of stairs, but no for the same reason as the other poster, these really should be handicap accesible. How about a ramp to get up... and a slide to get down? Have you seen the jungle gyms with the fake foot and hand grabs like thosed used in climbing? Maybe that would be fun on one side.
I belive others have touched on this but let me throw my 2 cents (well actually point .0098 cents in todays economy) in. Why don't we treat them like an an exhibit and have group viewings. Maybe once they're conditioned we could even feed the scared homo sapiens. It'll just be like a flashback of those family outings to the zoo when you were young.
PecanPlantation makes the most palpable point yet for the insanity of gated communities. I looked up Pecan Plantation on Rand McNally and it's amazing -- they've taken a really key piece of acreage right in a riverbend, at natural crossroads dividing one part of the county from another, and gated it off. You ought to sue the county for refusing to let you use the roads you pay to maintain.
It's great to see people taking advantage of free speech, which is right that many of us today take for granted. Keep it up, create awareness, be heard.
I came to US for MY FREEDOM. You ant to protest -- FREEDOM. I want to live there --- FREEDOM.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
US is the BEST Country in the World!
I am a freshman studying at the school of Art & Design at Alfred University and stumbled across this page through yahoo news. I think it's a great idea to use the viewing towers because it is a non-violent and moderately calm way of stirring discussion about these fortresses...I mean gated communities. I remember a few years ago my family (yes, we are quite wealthy) almost moved to a gated community (Tuxedo Park, NJ) and I am so thankfl we didn't. It really is sad to live in a gated community. If you actually talked to people that have lived in a gated community (especially as secluded a one like Tuxedo Park) for some years you'll realize how uneducated and out-of-touch they are with the rest of the world and other cultures. Many people that have responded negatively don't seem to back up why gated communities are good with any evidence. This is most likely because they are scared or what you are trying to open up to the public. These places are being built at an alarming rate and pretty soon you'll see gated community next to gated community next to gated community...wall next to wall next to wall. There's a reason people build walls, to keep what they don't want from getting in. It seems to me like these people don't want anyone that is not like them into there lives. And for that, I feel sorry for them.
THOSE ARE TOTALLY COOL, LATE THE OTHER NIGHT I TOTALLY SCREWED THIS CHICK IN ONE!!! THANKS
I have lived in Los Angeles all my life. I have seen many changes and not always for the better. But it's still the best place to live.. so for all who live here and hate it GO AWAY!!!, and for all who hate it and don't live here STAY AWAY!!!
If they don't like it then build their own communities by pooling their meager salaries as architects-by-day. And I ought to know and why should that be a surprise? Thought provoking though...
I see it as the rich keeping out the poor!
context is still everything. thanks for keeping the faith.
One thing I find funny is how you folks at Heavy Trash are an "Anonymous" group. Ironic thing is that the people living in gated communities are trying to stay "Anonymous" as well...share your identy and maybe they will as well???
This is rather cute. I live in a very small town in Michigan so I never see this kinda stuff. I agree with the person that said.."sit back and wait for the insults". This is what you guys do this for, to make a point, not really caring how "In your face" it is. It's awesome and I am proud of you all, make the statement, get it across...sit back and smile as the people piss and moan about it. It just means it touched them in that special place ;)
Creative expression! I like it
SW
Wonderful and expressive art!! Keep up the good work.
The reason I dont like LA is because it is full of homeless people. I spent good money for my house and don't want bums urinating in my backyard and I can't blame these multi millionaires for feeling the same way.
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Who are you fools? Putting up orange pieces of wood made into a staircase to do what? Peer into peoples pools? Or is it simply a suggestion that u think the rich cant have a fuckin gate around their house to keep trash like you out??????????????????????????????? See my aunt and uncle live in a gated community probably not far from you...its called calabasas...and if i see one of you bastards puttin up one of these eye soars as we drive up in the stylin porsche cayenne im gonne beat the livin shyt outta all u fukkd up "artists"!!! Poor you...dont have any cash...poor you dont have credit cards to use...poor you...your daddy beat you with a stick..poor you...you didnt get a degree from stanford like my uncle who is now rich...poor you..you smoked too much weed in high school and didnt educate your mind and thought u could make a living dumpsterdiving. What the hell are you people thinking, really? I think this a stupid little blog of people that are dissapointed that they didnt "make it" like all the rest of us hard working people in the usa. I think you are all silly little bitches to be quite honest. Just a few more fruits to add to the good ole CA nutcake. I think you all oughta have your scrawny little asses kicked...then beat down for causing me to have to write to you and express my thoughts that practically 99.9 percent of the rest of the population also feels. Grow up...get a REAL JOB and quit trying to put up wood structures that mean nothing other than your financial plight downward....ok?
Fascinating dialogue... thank God we live in America and can discuss these issues in a civil manner. Within this blog both sides have stated many of their concerns upfront and center.
Understanding that America long ago choose a low density multi-ethnic suburbian "model" (in part due to the automobile) and not a high density "model" like Hong Kong we are now stuck with issues such as sprawl, closed communities next to high-crime areas, walls, related fear/anger/mistrust, isolation, etc.
Where do we go from here? The Hong Kong model is obviously more efficient but do we want to live like that?
this is pretty lame. they don't even look like guard towers or anything menacing. it's like, the whole thing falls apart without a press release to explain it. i hate scared yuppies as much as anyone. hell, when i was a kid, i'd hang around with my mom while she cleaned houses in those middle class ghettos, but this is the kind of thing i'd expect from the artsy gated community dwellers. bottom line, all i see is college educated jerks bothering each other.
Look at all the jealousy! I don't live in a gated community. I actually live in a 600 square foot apartment. However, one day I will be able to afford the finer things in life. Why? Not because I sat around waiting for handouts, but because I earned a degree and found a job. I'm off to work so I can supplement your income...you should be too!
I think the idea of what you are doing is alright, but if you were rich and famous I can bet you'd have some sort of security up or near your property to keep un-wanted fans or starkers away. But we live in a free world, so rock on! I do have a question??? How is this funded? To pay for the supplies? Private donations? I'd like to help and I have ideas for a bigger project
If you were rich and famous would you have your property gated? I'd like to help donate some paint and supplies. How can i do this? A general location or store would be fine. You guys rock
Sounds like you guys got what you wanted. A discussion about gated communities and the pros and cons. Sometimes it takes building absurd orange towers to actually get some people out and participate in their community and the direction it is going.
i thought this web site was visited by a different kind of persons than the voice I'm hearing. I'm confused -
the work is great -
I bet this cost oh maybe 0.0001% of Christo's "The Gates" and the controversy here is actually productive.
As for the people who posted here expressing the desire to commit acts of violence, why don't they relieve some of the long-serving reservists and troops in Iraq who are really paying the price for our lifestyle.
The gated community is merely a physical manifestation of growing American ignorance and fear. Exurbia is "open" to all, but just as closed.
art and design are fascinating creatures. keep creating a buzz...that's what we're all here for.
Hey guys.
Thank you.
I live in Minnesota, I saw what you did on yahoo news. You guys rock. In Minnesota, a gated community is something we don't really know about and hopefully we won't know about.
Keep up the good work! Don't get mad at the ignorant people.
Thank you for the viewing platforms. I have seen many beautiful, naked women with them. Feel free to use the tissues I've left. Say hello to their sugar daddies for me.
If you take a frog and throw it into boiling water it jumps out. Place that same frog in a pot of water and turn up the temperature and it dies a slow death. Please do not try this at home. Next time, create a frenzy by charging admission which will cause the curious to create line ups and since they paid for it, they may think about it.
J
I’m not sure why you care…. I doubt very seriously that you would enjoy the company of the people living in these communities so once again,, why do you care? I’m sure there are many homeless people that would truly appreciate a strong well built wooden structure,, you do have homeless people in CA don’t you? Chop chop,, lets do something constructive.
I dont like the color.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, its the only thing that ever does. - Margaret Mead"
hey it's too soon for people to understand your point - they still afraid to death of percieved dangers (sex offenders, youth crime - all just a minor fractions of the huge numbers of petty crimes.) The posts here proves my point...
You should contact culture jammers and ad-busters they have some very innovative ideas ("take back the street", etc.)