posted by heavytrash at 9:16 AM
Hey, I walked past the Laughlin Park viewing station & didn't understand its meaning. Wish you had put a bit of explanation there. The whole concept would have been more resonant with me. I would've climbed those stairs. Back I go to get the full impact of your statement.
PARK LA BREA IS GONE! THEY DESTROYED IT!!!!!!
GOOD WOOD GONE TO WAST AGAIN :) "NOT" THANKS I NEEDED IT FOR MY TREE HOUSE AND TO DO REPAIR'S ON THE FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY, . KEEP LETTING US KNOW WHERE THEY ARE SO I CAN RIP THEM DOWN ALSO AND SALVAGE YOUR TRASH..J.L.B.338
DO YOU REALLY FEEL YOU ARE MAKING A CHANGE STUPID. AS LONG AS THERE IS UNLAWFUL PERSONS AND ACTIVITY SUCH AS BLOCKING THE SIDEWALKS SO THE HANDYCAPED CAN NOT GET BY AND FOOLISH VANDALS, CHILD MOLESTERS ,THEVES, ECT. WE WILL CLOSE THE DOORS ON YOUR FACES AND REBUKE THE DEVIL INSIDE OF YOU!!!!J.L.B. 338
The notion that there is something wrong with gating a neighborhood is ludicrous. The city saves much money because the streets within are privately maintained. Why don't you set up a viewing platform in front of everyone's private fenced-in yard? As long as it is more secure to live in a gated neighborhood they will continue to thrive and multiply. It would be more productive to address the urban problems which necessitate building gates in the first place.
Hey, you know what would be neat? A viewing RAMP instead of stairs so I could ride my self-balancing scooter up and have a look. I made it all by myself. Take a look: http://www.tlb.org/scooter.htmlI love riding around and looking into peoples backyards and stuff. I can look for parts for my new inventions.
It is a rather interesting project. Is it possible to have info posted about the other projects you have done as well as the community response?
i love it. poetic, confronting, and a little abstract.keep up the challenging work.
Gated communities are fantastic. Do you really want the residents enjoying the city streets with the rest of us!?!
I think folks get too wrapped up in what they WANT to believe are facts. Gated communities will continue to foster isolation and prepetuate NIMBY attitudes. Fantatic project - keep it up!
"O YOU REALLY FEEL YOU ARE MAKING A CHANGE STUPID. AS LONG AS THERE IS UNLAWFUL PERSONS AND ACTIVITY SUCH AS BLOCKING THE SIDEWALKS SO THE HANDYCAPED CAN NOT GET BY AND FOOLISH VANDALS, CHILD MOLESTERS ,THEVES, ECT. WE WILL CLOSE THE DOORS ON YOUR FACES AND REBUKE THE DEVIL INSIDE OF YOU!!!!"this is quite an intellectual discourse
Why did you assist in destroying a rainforrest in order to make Peeping Tom's out of passersby? Who cares if there are gated communities if you keep using wood and causing the decline in breathable air? You guys have too much time on your hands. Stop smoking the weed and setting around the hippie campfire talking down the class structure and do something useful like invent a new energy producing technology so we don't have to burn fossil fuels.
Where can I get one of those platforms? I want to use it for hunting deer.
Huh. So gated communities are kind of like zoos now. You can climb the stairs and view the strange, frightened, paranoiod creatures within. Clever.Fine, as long as they don't start throwing s#@! at you like monkeys at the zoo...I say, keep the undesireables in and let real life continue without them. Kudos.
Interesting! I'm not particularly familiar with the issue, but I support using non-destructive methods such as these to foster discussion. Keep up the great work!
Awesome. Absolutely awesome! Gated Communities represent the same elitist mindset that inadvertently launched the French Revolution and made our ancestors leave Britain!
Ah California. I wish I had nothing to do all day but sit in the sun, eat tofu, and "do the right thing." Thanks for not letting me down CA!
This is What I think is one of the points trying to get across. When it takes something as drastic or not, however you like to look at is, as putting up the viewing towers, you don't get discussions. Look at how people on here are reacting now. I find it amazing how when there are issues with things, it takes something drastic to bring it up, then no one will actually talk and discuss it, they will insult you for it. Modern Humanity is worthless if this is how they feel they need to live. We are a democracy, we have the ability to talk and change things once points are heard, but instead, we argue, and insult. Oh Isn't the maturity level of our country great? No wonder we are constantly at war. I think that if putting up those towers are what needed to be done to actually get people to listen, then CONGRATS! they are listening! Now sit back and wait for insults, because people who will live in a gated community and take that offense to that small tower getting put up, will only flip you the bird and insult you for having such an idea. So, over all, I guess I am saying good luck with this.
oooo look at all the scared people... rather than solving the problem they hide from it behind walls. i wonder why they think walls will keep a determined thief out? if he gets in it will obviously be worth the effort because only the rich can afford to live in these "communities". they should put their money and effort into reducing urban crime instead of walling themselves in.
It is also interesting that they choose to live under a greater level of legal restriction than the public at large, too, with the restrictive covenants and so on in many of those communities. Even surrendering the right to paint your house a certain color or plant a garden that does not look the same as the neighbors....
Holy geez! If you are going to complain and try to sound intelligent about your complaint, use a dictionary or a spell checker. They work marvels. There is no such thing as "handycap" or a "theve". So, instead of complaining about an orange object that will be torn down soon enough, work on your English because that will last a lifetime.
I love to see people express through art. I think you all have an intresting view on gated communities that I have not really thought about before this. So your art has sparked a new way of thinking for me and probibly other people too. This is probibly what you were trying to do... so good job @ it. I love the whole idea of the viewing platform. How long will they be there for? I live in the inland empire and would love to come out and see it in person.
Thanks HeavyTrash~You all just made my day.
Well done. Any effort aimed at annoying elitists is worth my attention. For your next “urban planning” act, please trim their hedges in the shape of dollar signs.
nice! (by the way, you should track, report and post the blasters ip's ... )
gated communities are exactly like the Fuedal system where the lords and knights in one section (the manor or keep) and the serfs in the village. yay for economical Fuedalism - I guess it never really left.
You do realize that you are protesting those in their retirement age. Those who have spent years saving for this nice house in a community where they can be left to graze in the sunset of their life much like old elephants or race horses. OHH! AND KUDOS TO THE A$$HOLE THAT BLOCKED THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK FOR THOSE OF US IN WHEEL CHAIRS! You should re-think your strategy. They have a wall around their property on PRIVATE land yet your veiwing post made me roll into the street to get to the store. THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC! By the way the average age for La Brea residents is 63. You should be attacking the builders and owners of the complex because they are the ones benefiting from this. They are the ones in multimillion dollar houses. You are verbally attacking someone's grandmother or grandfather.
WOW! I am inspired! I am going to protest the Zoo because the animals should be free to roam. Right now the are suffering from the same oppressive hand that cages these communities. Then after that I think we should do the same thing at the state prisons. No one should have a wall separating them from other humans.
Interesting.... The fact that so many people are "outraged" by you simply putting these non-permanent structures up, and the fact that there is little definition on them really does make for some interesting stuff. Perhaps if you were to video some of the reactions from people, since they appear to be in a "public way" I would think it would be legal. Or perhaps the fact that your project illicits suggestions like that is all you are looking for? Interesting..... ;)
I'd love to live in a gated community, unfortunately there are none anywhere near where I bought my home in New Hampshire. When Im at home I want peace, and yes I absolutely would choose to restrict entry for certain people. And no I am not an elitist...Im regular middle class. We do live in a society where people should be able to talk and work things out but please....VERY FEW actually do, and the ones that try get frustrated. I cant load all the idiots into a cage but a gated community is the next best thing.
waaaaaah i don't understand that one of art's many purposes is to provoke questions about the social environments we create for ourselves.
Wow, not only did this raise awareness of how gated communities destroy any remaining sense of neighborhood and community, but you also made some people think about the plight of the handicapped, the elderly, the earth's dwindling rainforests, rampant air-pollution, the energy crisis and animal rights. And these people hadn't given a moment's thought about any of that in years. Congratulations are truly in order. (On the other hand, one poster's touching concern for the "HANDYCAPED" is probably misplaced. Remember, while it's true that Superman always keeps his CAPE HANDY, while he's wearing it he can leap over those viewing platforms without breaking a sweat-and in a single bound no less. -Barry Freed
You people are all nuts.
Seems a little over the top. But whatever, to each his own, right?
These people are making a point. And a good one. All of you blathering about other stuff and throwing up your petty gripes need to spend less time feeling self-righteous online.
Great concept. Combines viewing platform & soapbox/pulpit. Maybe one of these each side of the fence could make a stile: free passage for (fit) pedestrians.
this is a cool project. i totally see the point that you guys are making. funny how people attack a peaceful project with such violent words though.... makes me wish we could put them in a gated community, and just make them stay there, those dumb bunches of elitist
As a Landscape Architect who practiced in California for years before relocating to the east coast, I have to say that I think the actions here are misguided. I heard of this in an article that cited "Heavy Trash, a coalition of anonymous architects, designers and urban planners" and the message they were trying to get across. I wonder why these non-descript platforms that offered no educational opportunity for the public are the medium they chose to use. I couldn't imagine a design professional in Southern California thinking that this was the best way to communicate their concern about gated communities. Development in LA, San Diego and Orange Counties is driven by homebuilders. If affecting change was really the goal of this project, I imagine they would have made some effort towards challenging a homebuilder to build an exclusive community without gates. Hell, they're all designers, right. Design a Master Plan for a make-believe community and show people how things can work better than the way they're criticizing. That would be the professional, intellectual, effective way of making changes. Shock value statements are for people who have no other reasonable method of communicating. This goes without even mentioning how I disagree with their view on private communities and the fostering of a fearful society. That notion sounds like the mumblings of a group of have-nots looking for interesting to spin the fact that they've been left out - if not as homeowner, then as professionals who aren't getting good work because they're living in a place that doesn't jibe with their ideology. Huh, then what the hell are they doing in LA anyway? Now it's all making sense......ridiculous.
You want to see art, come to my site. www.tatescolony.com NOW THAT'S A BRILLIANT COMMUNITY!
To those of you who do not want to protect yourselves by living in a gated community...Go right on, bleat, complain and let "them" rob you blind and in so doing keep them engaged and away from me!
OH GEES, HOW FRIGHTFULLY SUBVERSIVE! The problem isn't the gates, it's the sprawl, the cars, the lack of walkable civilised public space, density, public transit, etc. etc. Thousands of acres of single family suburbs, gated or not, is why LA is such a traffic-choked toilet.Who cares about the cheezy McMansion behind the gate? There's one just like it up the street.
re: the complaints about obstructed pedestrian rights-of-way... i'm impressed there are actually some sidewalks to block! the concern would be better directed to those who more permanently disturb people's ability to move around the city without a car.keep up the good work, heavytrash!
jim, the landscape architect, has a deeply flawed argument: that heavytrash decided not to attach more information to their viewing stations does not mean that they did not consider a more direct approach. instead, it shows that they may be a bit more savvy about attracting attention than jim can appreciate. and the idea that the members of heavytrash simply move away from l.a. instead of trying to effect change (and remain politically committed) in their own community is absurb beyond belief!
Hmm, Gates versus Jobs?Lowly plywood lets apt jabs!Tongue lolls in cheery cheek.
I certainly don't believe that "tearing down the walls" immediately is going to solve any problems, but I commend Heavy Trash for raising awareness of a problem. The platforms do as they are supposed to...they get people talking.
I think the awareness is needed, but do you guys really think that this means anything a week from now. You must do bigger and better, you must entice the world. One really can't blame those inside the walls for uterlly giving up on trying to fix the worlds problems and hiding, CAN YOU?
...big leaps occur only after small steps. Pruitt-Igo went the way of the highway, the Berlin Wall is no longer, even Cabrini Green is finding itself reinvented. Keep the idiots educated...awareness of the issue is only the beginning...
You should have made it so I can drive my car up it with the radio on, A/C on, and eating a Big Mac.Awesome idea..I wonder if these people know that we can look right into their homes with Google, picking trash, and hacked WiFi connections?But wait, they only drive H2s right?
You guys/gals are great. Keep on rockin' in the free world.
Haha, awesome. If I lived in LA (or California for that matter) I'd definitely want to be apart of this.It takes the work of creative minds to shake people up and point out the things in society that are screwed up.
Southern California has the ugliest "architecture" in the world and it's a big laugh to see gates around the horrid pink stucco McMansions.The Home Depot orange was a nice touch.
If the elite trash would like to live in their walled fortresses, I think it's perfectly acceptable. Their loss of being cut off from an amazing and diverse world is my gain in never having to see their faces in public. Kudos to them for getting the hell out of my way and out of sight.
Wow... I never really thought about it before, but yes, gated communities are quite reminiscent of the old Twightlight Zone shows, where the occupants fall victim to their own fears and insecurities. Quite eerie indeed! How are we ever going to be united in this world if we keep putting walls up between us? It's so strange that the world is actually getting smaller, and we're learning and meeting so many new and interesting cultures, ideas and points of view, and there are some people who seem to be trying to keep that out. Of course it's their right to do so, it's a free country after all... but at what cost? I guess it's mainly their loss. I for one would not want to live in a gated community, and learning about this project has really helped me to thoroughly think about and solidify this decision. Hmmm... could that have been the point all along? To save those of us who haven't given in to fear and run away yet? Good job guys! ^_^
the people who are saying that "it's fine for people to gate themselves in if they want to" are missing the point that by taking a big old swathe of land in the middle of a community and gating it off, you are simply making GETTING AROUND that much more difficult - especially for those WITHOUT CARS - children, the elderly, and the poor. who we generally tend to neglect as a rule in this "society" of ours, and gated communities simply serve to exacerbate that. if you want to put a 20-foot-gate around your house - fine, do it. but streets have been the basis of public space ever since the very first cities - and should remain so, if we consider ourselves to be at all civilized. and, to all those people wailing about the structures blocking the sidewalk... yes, problematic, but think of the bigger picture - which is a bigger problem for sidewalk access - a temporary viewing platform, or a acres-wide gated community?
This is friggin retarded.
Perhaps some mock border guard stations situated at the gates a la East Berlin would have made more of a point. Or perhaps your own gates, face to face with theirs, walling off the rest of the city from the isolationist nuts - "Outside the Asylum", Douglas Adams style? I grok the sentiment, but the statement was maybe a little too obscure in its delivery. Besides, I'd feel a little safer knowing nuts like J.L.B.338 were safely isolated from society...
This is a strange mix between absurdity and poignancy that I really like. For the people who think it is too obscure, you got it didn't you? In this TV world we think everything has to pound us over the head with loud monosyllabic blandness. This is funny really. And they might make good shelters for the homeless when you are done with them. p.s. LA is pretty much a giant shithole.
This is great... come out here to Atlanta and put these up in the icky Cali-like enclaves that are popping up all over! And I agree with the previous poster... L.A. is a giant sh*thole!
First they isolated the First Peoples on reservations, because they wanted them gone and now they've put themselves into reservations because they know we want them gone LOL
Gated communities are a desire to create order where social norms and law enforcement have failed. If the police won't enforce anti-litter laws the homeowner's association will. If the city's taxing of property owners won't provide adequate common area maintenance the community association (and the additional fees) will. If there's no way to prevent the neighbors from making their yard and home an eyesore we'll live in a community that requires minimum standards. It's called freedom of choice. The lurking social agenda here is that after trashing their own environments the great unwashed aren't satisfied until every place in the city is their personal dumping ground - especially if someone else is paying to clean it up. We've waited long enough for "shared responsibility" - I'll take my gate card and go home to a community where we ALL agree that it's our shared responsibility to maintain beauty, order and cleanliness. If that's not what you want there's plenty more of the world to wallow in outside the gate.
Fucking Morons. Im sure about umpteen gated communities are going to tear down their walls and gates now that you built some orange volleyball referee booths.
Fuck the greedy rich bastards.Tear down the walls!Kudos to you HeavyTrash !!!p.s., put one outside the White House so we can get a peek at sneaky George and what he and his greedy corrupt friend Tom DeLay are up to....:)
What's the difference between a gated community and a non-gated community? Very little. People have fences and walls around their houses and yards regardless of what kind of community they live in. Sure there is some elitism in a gated community. But people's biggest concern, no matter if they live in a ritzy gated community or the low-rent district, is PRIVACY.
I love private, gated communities. They segregate the elitists from the rest of society. We shouldn't be protesting gated communities, we should be encouraging developers to build more so that we can further isolate all the elitist a-holes from the real people. Let them have their country clubs and private roads. We don't want them associating with *real* people.
i live 5 miles from work. there are 2 roads to work. one of them (a county road) cuts through Pecan Plantation, a gated community, and is 5.2 miles long from my home to work. I am not allowed in there. the other road is approximately 19 miles long, curving around an artificial lake built in the town. with stop lights and traffic i have a 45 minute commute one way.am i being unreasonable to ask 'what is the sense in this?'
I understand your concept, in principle. Next time you do a project like this I recommend you install some sort of information along with your construct, as the devices themselves are kind of obscure. They just look like construction equipment that the city hasn't gotten around to retrieving yet.
Living in a gated community does not necessarily mean these people have cut themselves off entirely from the community and the diversity of the city. They can still shop in the city if they want, they eat where they want, their cars need repairs, they go to the beach, the bars, the museums, movies, etc. But when they get home, they probably just want some peace. They want security. They want their home to be the same as they left it. I don't see a problem with that. I live in a very urban area, our stuff is constantly being broken and stolen and defaced by people who don't live in the neighborhood. Our whole side of the city is a complex of tightly knit nieghborhoods. That doesn't offer me any security. They installed blind-one-ways, potted plant barriers, concrete medians. It hasn't helped. I live with three cops in my neighborhood. It doesn't help. People drive past our normal lower middle class cars and shoot all the windows out, they pull our stair rails out of the ground to resell, they tag the 100 year old bricks, a couple was killed "for fun" while walking hand-in-hand in our park... it's crazy stupid criminality that mankind has always been plagued with. So these people got sick of it, can afford to provide greater security for their homes/spouses/kids, and did so. They still can enjoy all the aspects of the city, of their new neighborhood and their neighbors, of diversity of culture, but not deal with as much crime. I'm not afraid of being robbed... I *am* being robbed. There's a difference. If I could afford to move somewhere with private security, I would. And I say this as a young blue-collar white male raised in a mixed ethnicity home, who has moved from absolute poverty to lower middle class... and security makes all the difference in the world.
It's great what you're doing but you need to dumb it down a little for the general public. Most people will not use the veiwing platform due to the fact that it isn't theirs and thusly keeping off.Maybe making it's purpose more obvious would help explain what you're trying to say. :)
you could consider putting up signs such as 'do not feed the animals' in front of their gates.or a sign that reaches above the wall pointing in that simply says 'don't hate us'
I think that installing a periscope might be worthwhile next time. They are easy to make and relatively inexpensive. Also they would provide for easier viewing and also Kids abosolutely love them. I also liked the idea of a ramp instead of stairs, but no for the same reason as the other poster, these really should be handicap accesible. How about a ramp to get up... and a slide to get down? Have you seen the jungle gyms with the fake foot and hand grabs like thosed used in climbing? Maybe that would be fun on one side.
I belive others have touched on this but let me throw my 2 cents (well actually point .0098 cents in todays economy) in. Why don't we treat them like an an exhibit and have group viewings. Maybe once they're conditioned we could even feed the scared homo sapiens. It'll just be like a flashback of those family outings to the zoo when you were young.
PecanPlantation makes the most palpable point yet for the insanity of gated communities. I looked up Pecan Plantation on Rand McNally and it's amazing -- they've taken a really key piece of acreage right in a riverbend, at natural crossroads dividing one part of the county from another, and gated it off. You ought to sue the county for refusing to let you use the roads you pay to maintain.
It's great to see people taking advantage of free speech, which is right that many of us today take for granted. Keep it up, create awareness, be heard.
I came to US for MY FREEDOM. You ant to protest -- FREEDOM. I want to live there --- FREEDOM.GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!US is the BEST Country in the World!
I am a freshman studying at the school of Art & Design at Alfred University and stumbled across this page through yahoo news. I think it's a great idea to use the viewing towers because it is a non-violent and moderately calm way of stirring discussion about these fortresses...I mean gated communities. I remember a few years ago my family (yes, we are quite wealthy) almost moved to a gated community (Tuxedo Park, NJ) and I am so thankfl we didn't. It really is sad to live in a gated community. If you actually talked to people that have lived in a gated community (especially as secluded a one like Tuxedo Park) for some years you'll realize how uneducated and out-of-touch they are with the rest of the world and other cultures. Many people that have responded negatively don't seem to back up why gated communities are good with any evidence. This is most likely because they are scared or what you are trying to open up to the public. These places are being built at an alarming rate and pretty soon you'll see gated community next to gated community next to gated community...wall next to wall next to wall. There's a reason people build walls, to keep what they don't want from getting in. It seems to me like these people don't want anyone that is not like them into there lives. And for that, I feel sorry for them.
THOSE ARE TOTALLY COOL, LATE THE OTHER NIGHT I TOTALLY SCREWED THIS CHICK IN ONE!!! THANKS
I have lived in Los Angeles all my life. I have seen many changes and not always for the better. But it's still the best place to live.. so for all who live here and hate it GO AWAY!!!, and for all who hate it and don't live here STAY AWAY!!!
If they don't like it then build their own communities by pooling their meager salaries as architects-by-day. And I ought to know and why should that be a surprise? Thought provoking though...
I see it as the rich keeping out the poor!
context is still everything. thanks for keeping the faith.
One thing I find funny is how you folks at Heavy Trash are an "Anonymous" group. Ironic thing is that the people living in gated communities are trying to stay "Anonymous" as well...share your identy and maybe they will as well???
This is rather cute. I live in a very small town in Michigan so I never see this kinda stuff. I agree with the person that said.."sit back and wait for the insults". This is what you guys do this for, to make a point, not really caring how "In your face" it is. It's awesome and I am proud of you all, make the statement, get it across...sit back and smile as the people piss and moan about it. It just means it touched them in that special place ;)
Creative expression! I like itSW
Wonderful and expressive art!! Keep up the good work.
The reason I dont like LA is because it is full of homeless people. I spent good money for my house and don't want bums urinating in my backyard and I can't blame these multi millionaires for feeling the same way.
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Who are you fools? Putting up orange pieces of wood made into a staircase to do what? Peer into peoples pools? Or is it simply a suggestion that u think the rich cant have a fuckin gate around their house to keep trash like you out??????????????????????????????? See my aunt and uncle live in a gated community probably not far from you...its called calabasas...and if i see one of you bastards puttin up one of these eye soars as we drive up in the stylin porsche cayenne im gonne beat the livin shyt outta all u fukkd up "artists"!!! Poor you...dont have any cash...poor you dont have credit cards to use...poor you...your daddy beat you with a stick..poor you...you didnt get a degree from stanford like my uncle who is now rich...poor you..you smoked too much weed in high school and didnt educate your mind and thought u could make a living dumpsterdiving. What the hell are you people thinking, really? I think this a stupid little blog of people that are dissapointed that they didnt "make it" like all the rest of us hard working people in the usa. I think you are all silly little bitches to be quite honest. Just a few more fruits to add to the good ole CA nutcake. I think you all oughta have your scrawny little asses kicked...then beat down for causing me to have to write to you and express my thoughts that practically 99.9 percent of the rest of the population also feels. Grow up...get a REAL JOB and quit trying to put up wood structures that mean nothing other than your financial plight downward....ok?
Fascinating dialogue... thank God we live in America and can discuss these issues in a civil manner. Within this blog both sides have stated many of their concerns upfront and center. Understanding that America long ago choose a low density multi-ethnic suburbian "model" (in part due to the automobile) and not a high density "model" like Hong Kong we are now stuck with issues such as sprawl, closed communities next to high-crime areas, walls, related fear/anger/mistrust, isolation, etc. Where do we go from here? The Hong Kong model is obviously more efficient but do we want to live like that?
this is pretty lame. they don't even look like guard towers or anything menacing. it's like, the whole thing falls apart without a press release to explain it. i hate scared yuppies as much as anyone. hell, when i was a kid, i'd hang around with my mom while she cleaned houses in those middle class ghettos, but this is the kind of thing i'd expect from the artsy gated community dwellers. bottom line, all i see is college educated jerks bothering each other.
Look at all the jealousy! I don't live in a gated community. I actually live in a 600 square foot apartment. However, one day I will be able to afford the finer things in life. Why? Not because I sat around waiting for handouts, but because I earned a degree and found a job. I'm off to work so I can supplement your income...you should be too!
I think the idea of what you are doing is alright, but if you were rich and famous I can bet you'd have some sort of security up or near your property to keep un-wanted fans or starkers away. But we live in a free world, so rock on! I do have a question??? How is this funded? To pay for the supplies? Private donations? I'd like to help and I have ideas for a bigger project
If you were rich and famous would you have your property gated? I'd like to help donate some paint and supplies. How can i do this? A general location or store would be fine. You guys rock
Sounds like you guys got what you wanted. A discussion about gated communities and the pros and cons. Sometimes it takes building absurd orange towers to actually get some people out and participate in their community and the direction it is going.
i thought this web site was visited by a different kind of persons than the voice I'm hearing. I'm confused - the work is great -
I bet this cost oh maybe 0.0001% of Christo's "The Gates" and the controversy here is actually productive.As for the people who posted here expressing the desire to commit acts of violence, why don't they relieve some of the long-serving reservists and troops in Iraq who are really paying the price for our lifestyle.The gated community is merely a physical manifestation of growing American ignorance and fear. Exurbia is "open" to all, but just as closed.
art and design are fascinating creatures. keep creating a buzz...that's what we're all here for.
Hey guys.Thank you. I live in Minnesota, I saw what you did on yahoo news. You guys rock. In Minnesota, a gated community is something we don't really know about and hopefully we won't know about.Keep up the good work! Don't get mad at the ignorant people.
Thank you for the viewing platforms. I have seen many beautiful, naked women with them. Feel free to use the tissues I've left. Say hello to their sugar daddies for me.
If you take a frog and throw it into boiling water it jumps out. Place that same frog in a pot of water and turn up the temperature and it dies a slow death. Please do not try this at home. Next time, create a frenzy by charging admission which will cause the curious to create line ups and since they paid for it, they may think about it.J
I’m not sure why you care…. I doubt very seriously that you would enjoy the company of the people living in these communities so once again,, why do you care? I’m sure there are many homeless people that would truly appreciate a strong well built wooden structure,, you do have homeless people in CA don’t you? Chop chop,, lets do something constructive.
I dont like the color.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, its the only thing that ever does. - Margaret Mead"
hey it's too soon for people to understand your point - they still afraid to death of percieved dangers (sex offenders, youth crime - all just a minor fractions of the huge numbers of petty crimes.) The posts here proves my point...You should contact culture jammers and ad-busters they have some very innovative ideas ("take back the street", etc.)
How come none were located in South Central, or East Los. These are gated communities or enclaves also. Granted we are gated economicaly and geographicaly by our wonderfull freeway system and first world school system. You should have placed one at Alliso Pico so the peoples can see our beautifull gated community. If you don't deal with the injustice those small gates will not keep anyone safe. The gates at Alliso don't keep us safe either.I clean your houseI care for your kidsI mow your lawnI keep the peaceEl Vato loco
WOW, this it totally retarded! LOL If a person wants Privacy then they are welcome to it.. Get a life
For those complaining that the platforms are blocking the sidewalks and forcing you to go into the street, think how easy it would have been to get around had there not been a wall on the other side...
You guys really have to start putting these up on a NATIONAL LEVEL! Please start by putting some up around the White House because god knows what’s going on in there. We should really get a movement started.It’s great that you got so many people riled up about this issue, even if it seems that most people are angered. I see this as you are only offending the people that need to be offended. If you’re going to put up more of these outlook posts, perhaps you should paint on an explanation of what they are and what purpose they serve. It seems that most people miss the point, and I don’t know how many will take the time to look it up online
For the most part, I'm always up for some good activist art, (whatever that means) and congrats for getting it noticed by the popular media but I think it will do little to spark thoughtful consideration by those not yet in the choir. Too abstract and art-elite. Nice orange though. Remember, this is L.A. and if you can't "get it" from the driver's seat of a car moving at 40MPH then forget it. Oh and by the way, for the i heart NY guy dis'ing LA,,, yawn,,,before you go for another slice, you can kiss my well meaning tanned ass dude.
This sort of activism is exactly what our country needs to draw attention to issues like this. It is not harmful or invasive and has a profound impact that gets the point across. However I would agree with some of the comments posted here that an explanation near the viewing platforms would help raise awareness of the issue as a social statement instead of an oddity on the street. I think it is a wonderful idea and I want to congratulate heavytrash on its good work.
I live in Kansas and found an article about you, so looked up your site. I moved to Kansas from California about 10 years ago.In my small town in Kansas (850 people) the only reason anyone has a fence is to keep the dogs in, not to keep people out. We have very little crime and in fact our court only has cases once in a while, and our criminal log in the newspaper is often empty for the week.But when I lived in California, in a nice enough neighborhood, I had prowlers twice, someone tried my door once. My lawn decorations were stolen, along with my car one night. Got the car back with gang slogans carved in the side.Make an area safer to live in, and people will open up their communities. People, I believe, want to be open and free. Who'd really want to live behind a wall, except for the feeling of safety?I agree that walls give a community the look you describe. But people who feel they need walls for security get that idea from something, fear. Wanting security behind walls doesn't just pop up by our nature. Our nature is to be open and free.JC
THIS IS AWESOME STATEMENTdown with gated communities!!
Home Depot Orange.. lol I thought the same thing when I saw it. Don't you love creative protesting?Whether you agree or disagree with what they are doing you got to give the props on how they brought up the debate.
Two comments.For the people who comment about gated communities being "Elitist" or for the rich, why don't you drive down the 105. We have gated "communities" we call them "projects." Why didn't you put a fancy viewing tower there?If you really want to do something for the good of mankind, and for our society in general, why don't you use the time and recources put into those towers to actually help build housing for the homeless and the needy. This is most likely another case of folks trying to make a difference without getting their hands "dirty."
As someone trained as an architect at a well known L.A. architectural school, you know, the really long one downtown, I'm really disappointed by what I'm sure was hatched by some of my fellow alumni. Come on, you guys can do better than this. Stop taking shots at easy and pretty irrelevent topics. Yeah, I know gated communities are bad, bad for those in them that is, and just kinda boring for the rest of us. There is still a big beautiful world out here but it's the gate people's right to be scared and intimidated by it. So be it. Let's all keep working to make the public spaces an exciting, diverse and inclusive place and maybe the people behind the gates will come out to play too. And by the way, stop with the anonymous bullshit. It doesn't lend any credibility, it's just lame and no one cares who you are.
hm, gated communities don't bother me so much. (& no, i don't live in one.) although, i do think this is a nice, creative concept.
This is a well-conceived, well-made project. But some of the reactions posted here are telling. It reminds me of a story, that someone once asked Sid Vicious if he made his music for the man on the street. And he said, "No. I've met the man on the street. And he's a c*nt."
hmm, why did you guys do it at la brea?? Thats not a gated community \.. It's an apartment complex Einstein.lol anywayz.. Do what you wamt. They will all be taken down anywayz so it doesn't really matter. Do you really think gates make for a fearsome community? I sure hope you don't belive that. I happen to think that good fences make good neihgbors. Dont knock them for wanting their safety and privacy.
I agree with Sid. Majority of comments here show how idiotic Americans are. (As if having Bush in the WH didn't already prove that.) Why are so many Americans so incredibly lame and stupid??It is astounding how many people commenting don't get it. And how many people are happy to side with the wealthy in hopes that one day they will be let into the club.The problem of class differences won't be solved until fundamental change in this society happens. Capital rules in America. America has no morals. America eats its young. Greed rules in America.The fundamental change that is needed will not come for a long time - only when the inevitable shortages of resources happens and the American middle classes are living in a poverty lifestyle will they finally rise up to change the system. But, unfortunately, not in our lifetime. They are too hoodwinked by mass media and the illusion of "freedom" and a lottery ticket. As long as the golden carrot is dangled in front of them (you too can live in a gated community if you just work hard enough!) most Americans will buy the bull-shite. Those Americans who see through the bs are to comfy or too disempowered to feel that they can attempt anything beyond voting democratic and sending emails to their senator. Pathetic.America sucks. If I had the means to leave and live elsewhere I would.
Are you serious?? With all the problems in the world today you're worried about gated communities? Why not put your efforts to solving our social security problem, or a way for us to stop using petroleum.. Come on people wake up.
I agree, there are many more important issues than gated communities. You are so concerned with treating the symptoms of the ills of our society that you are totally missing the actual problems.
I'm suing you jerks! I hurt myself taking a jump off your ugly diving board. There was no freaking pool! Good thing I only did a cannoball.
Bravo - now if we could only stage an event that goes after the speculative real estate market that makes it hard to live where I am now, I'd be all for it.
Very nice work. Provokes plenty of interesting discussion. Forces us to look at how we live with one another. Also promotes lots of passionately insane comments!Personally, I feel people should be free to build and live in gated communities and I also feel people should be free to create viewing platforms into them, even if they are made out of wood. :)Nice work and keep stirring things up to see what floats and what sinks.Lynne Martinwww.riddlelake.com
Great stuff! Greetings from sweden!
Come to Las Vegas! Almost every "planned community" or subdivision here is gated.
people who live in cages are fags
boring...... concept....boring and so obvious it tires me to type this
Weak! Way too arty in appearance, soft and small. I was hoping at least for 50 foot erections, gunmetal grey, bristling with machine guns and barbed wire. "But that would get us arrested!" whines the bobo provacateur.
woot this is an awesome projectgated communities are one step closer to neal stephensons' snow crash
I'm not sure I truly understand the problem, or what issue these platforms are addressing. I am a new england resident, and maybe things are entirely different there in LA?I've seen mention of the gated communities blocking traffic and causing non-residents to drive around them. Along the same lines, I've seen mention that as taxpayers, the roads within these communities should be publicly available to all. The assumption here is that public funds were used in building the roads within the gated communities. I am curious to know what used to exist on the land in LA... prior to the development of such communities. Assuming I had the money to privately buy a large swath of undeveloped land and turned it into a private nature preserve, would anyone feel entitle to drive through my privately owned nature preserve? The land and roads inside the gated communities are privately held by the community associations, so how is this any different? Just because a road exists, does not necessarily mean the road was funded by the government, nor does it mean that all citizens are entitled to drive through.ON CRIME: Gated communities operate on the premise that by restricting access to the community, less crime will occur. Whether this is true or not, the statistics speak for themselves. However, as someone who does not live within a gated community, why should I SPECIFICALLY care about the crimes which occur within (of course, as a society, one should care about crime in general)ON CHOICE AND PRIVACY: doesn't the US constitution afford each of us the right to reasonable degree of privacy within our own homes? If I wish to protect my privacy by erecting a wall, is that inherently evil? As a community of people who similarly value their privacy, wish to build a privately funded wall on private land, with the intent to keep public eyes out, what is wrong with that? Would heavy trash be equally eager to put binoculars and periscopes outside of dressing rooms? For those who claim that a wall provides a false sense of privacy (google maps, satellite photography, etc.) please do keep in mind that while their privacy may be an illusion, it is the homeowner's illusion, why is it any concern of yours?ON THE DECLINE OF SOCIETY: while I agree that it is “un-neighborly” to erect walls, it must also be recognized that it is a natural human inclination to avoid that which is displeasing. If I work hard to be rich, why should I live in the streets? On the flipside, if I am a lazy bum, why should I expect full access to another’s home? I do not fault the rich humans who build walls and form gated communities to keep the poor humans out. This seems to me to be a very natural tendency, evidenced throughout history. While such distinct separations of social class are lamentable, tearing down the physical walls does not serve to blur the social class distinctions. I will end my babbling post in much the same way I began, I do not understand what Heavytrash is trying to accomplish. As long as there are lazy humans (or stupid, or both) within society, there will be (and should be) a poorer class; and unless it is being suggested that the rich humans have obtained their wealth illicitly, or have obtained their wealth by bringing down the poor, I again state that I don’t understand what the issue at hand is. Is Heavytrash advocating that the walls be torn down, and the wealth of the rich humans be shared with us common folk?- The Hamarchist
Never mind LA being a shit hole; all you closed minded, rich, stuck up, un-intelligent, moronic, selfish, petty, earth wasting, living in 911 fear mongering, bush eating, padantic motherfluffer Americans should GET A GRIP. For those who are SO rich, and SO powerful, YOU who cannot understand HEAVY TRASH need to breathe, close your eyes, and try to IMAGINE BEING A CHILD. You can not control everything in the universe, much less your backyard, or your gated community. STOP LIVING IN FEAR you WIMPS. breathe and live. and you will flourish. embrace your enemy, and remember humility, forgivenss, and compassion. WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND GATERS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. peace.OM MANI PADME HUM.
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Yee who are gated shall someday become ungated.J.Chirst
So people work hard, they earn a decent wage, they pay taxes to support welfare, and they choose a home and environment to their likeing? What IS so wrong with that? Sterotyping them all as "elitist" scum is so narrow minded. Maybe they want additional security for their family? Maybe they are retired and want peace of mind? Have some of you posters ever been burgled / mugged / attacked? Have you got children you want to protect? Get off your high horses and live and let live..Oh and get a real job and REALLY give something to the community!
awesome.....i love the art and its statement of a greedy and selfish society.
What about carefully thought-out democratic expression instead of jarring self-dramatic flamboyance...Want change? Act through proper channels instead of disruptive acts,if you love peace and democracy so much.
Why would anyone put so much energy into bringing to light and knocking the type of homes people CHOOSE to live in? For some reason, a lot of people don't feel safe in L.A., can't imagine why, and not everyone can choose which part of the world they live in, and if living in a gated community provides them with the sense of security they desire, who are we, you, them, or I, to tell them they are wrong? Why do people put alarms in their cars? They sure as hell don't deter car thieves. But i'll bet they lull a car owner with the same false sense of security that the community walls do for the homeowner. What right does anyone have to deny people the right to feel secure in their home? Actually, peoples' energies and attention would be far better directed at speaking up and out against what the f**king Bush administration is doing to this and many other countries. It makes me ill to know that THE PEOPLE have the power to prevent this abusive government from realizing their ultimate goals, which are not for the common good of this country, yet they choose not to. To anyone that doesn't think the Bush administration is this country's worst nightmare, and that we are not already living in a police state and are in a very real and near danger of living under Facist rule, you're either very ignorant, and most likely choose to be that way, probably because it's not as scary as having your eyes and your mind open. Or, you agree with the direction the administration is forcing this country to take. I can only hope that it's just a lack of knowledge, but all you have to do is sit your ass down in front of a computer. Type in any combination of words, ex. "police rights Rumsfeld terror Iraq", they don't form a proper sentence, but I guarantee you a shitload of results using any search engine.Don't just believe or not believe me. Look for yourselves. Before that right is also taken from you. Oh, and have a nice day!p.s. the above search query turned up 593,000 results.
hum... with all this attention on gated communities, I think I'll look for my next residence inside one of these communities.
I've been watching you heavy trash. These viewing platforms are first-rate, I also like the ladder into the park that was fenced to keep out the homeless, and still number one with me--the Metro Aqua Line signs. Keep blocking the sidewalks with your heavy objects that someone else needs to dispose of. You are dropping objects into a city that doesn't know how to deal with them, and the results are a wonderful paralysis as layered community service agencies pass the buck. Also, about the 'handycaped' people who wear capes and can not walk-- the real problem is not some orange stuff in the sidewalk, it is a rich, coservative city that will not put curb cuts in its sidewalks, didn't repair a single sidewalk from 1982 to 2001, and has many intersections with only ONE crosswalk out of a possible four.
Great work. Who said you should use the "usual channels"? I don't get it. Did you guys do something bad? What are people complaining about you folks for?
It's great to see that your project has generated such mixed responses. By far the most disturbing reaction is that of people who insist that those behind this organization "get a real job."I have to assume that these people do not take the time to actually read about this project. Since when did architecture, design and urban planning become useless or "unreal" jobs?It speaks volumes. Apparently, some people have absolutely no concept of the contibutions that these creative professions make to society. Who do they think created these communities? Bankers and teachers? Doctors and police officers? Certainly not architects, designers and urban planners.
I personally enjoy this project. Challenging the Public-Private boundaries is interesting. Although, I think that a visual connection is not enough to prove this point. If these boundaries in the fabric are to be disturbed, then a stronger connection must be suggested, one that actually talks about reclaiming the spatial relantionship between the public street and the privatized area. This relantionship should imply a transcendence of limits (in this case, gates), and the ability to occupy the privatized spaces. If the boundaries are to be broken, let some new gesture project the beholder into the space...
Security is the issue people! The right to live in a protected enviroment if you so chose. No wonder people want to live in gated communities when such hateful ignorance engulfs us! I would love to think we could all live together in harmony and enjoy each others presence, but sooner or later someone elses dog would shit in our yard and would all be over. I am a fan of art and freedom of expression....but this is just a spray-painted step stool.
This is great! I've never really thought about gated communities one way or the other. But I really love your idea.Good luck.
i have seen what you did and i just find it great. Some people come here and talk about the Wood you used and stuff, but friends, if these rich people gave a little bit of his money to make something productive heavytrush should not do that, dont they?.Greets from Spain.
People who choose to live in gated communities know that around them crime exists. Instead of trying to solve the problem, they choose to avoid the problem by alienated themselves in these cages of comfort.
Hey Heavy Trash,Why didn't you think of the sociopolitical problem I was thinking of instead of gated communities?Here, I'll give you one more chance. Are you ready? Okay, I'm thinking of it, now guess it and make a project with my agenda.You're not going to do it are you?Dumbass.
Folks, It's not what you think. I live in Park La Brea, and not because of any elitist attitude or anti-social leanings.I live here because in L.A., there really aren't that many community oriented, pedestrian-friendly spaces where people, neighbors, strangers, can all mingle, bike, walk around, play and relax in safety, removed from the noise and chaos of L.A. Park La Brea actually encourages community, getting to know your neighbors, cultural diversity - and I mean seriously diverse. Sometimes when I walk around the Park it looks like the cover of WatchTower Magazine! That JeWho?Va's Witness mag one where all the peoples of Earth are havin' a picnic with Jesus, and the lions and the lambs are hanging out sharing a soda.Where else in L.A. can regular, middle-class Gen-Exer's like myself find that kind of community? Silverlake? I think not. Gated, yes, but It's a really remarkable phenomenon for this area. It's five minutes from most major museums, shopping miles, libraries, supermarkets and banks, so many, many people who would normally be clogging the streets make the right choice to walk their errands. This means less traffic.Now let's talk about the surrounding streets. HIGH CRIME, transients, low-income shoppers flood from the Kmart, leaving a trail of trash and overturned shopping carts in their wake. Read the police blotter in any of the local newspapers...it's a wonder I'm even alive to write this! This situation is definitely not the result of exclusionary private property rules, or co-opting public space, with the result of a downturn in the quality of life in the neighborhood. This has always been a problem in the area, and it's a problem that Park La Brea, though not addressing it directly, certainly offers a solution to. Don't like the trash, crime and panhandlers? Stay off the streets, spare some fossil fuels and grow your own vegetables (did I mention the community garden!). Gated communities are not inherently evil, nor are the people that inhabit them. Shades of grey, people, shades of grey.
The true elitists are those who feel they need to make a platform show their displeasure that someone else has a fenced in yard. It seems more like jealosy to me. They are not going to where you live telling you that they don't like your neighborhood. If you don't like gated communities don't live in one. This is America, you should spend more time living how you want to live instead of trying to change the way others live; comrade.
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I'm proud to be a free-range American living without gates and walls. What I see in these comments is symptomatic of the whole subject. Non-confrontation. The gates and walls let people live separate from the problems they refuse to confront and solve, and the people who insult you for what you're doing won't confront the real issue, either.
I love you guys. The presentation at SFI was fantastic, and you're an inspiration to the rest of us trying to use our Architecture to make real change in our communities.
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